The Canadian government is proposing to remove octopus, squid, lobster and crab from the legal list of animals, and the Sentate is questioning if animals are able to feel pain according to this story in The Globe and Mail.
Of course it is the unversities and chicken farmers, according to the article, that oppose the bill that could tighten restrictions on cruelty to animals.
To me, it is sick to try and hide from what you do as a human. Killing anything causes trauma to the think killed. Even trees' "pain" has been measured. You just have to live with that, and be as responsible as you can, under the circumstances of being alive. Somehow the government wants some sort of legislation that makes it ok to kill things because they don't feel anything. Ugh.
Posted by jason at April 22, 2003 09:29 AMwhoever came up with this fine idea has never seen his lobster dinner try to crawl out of the pot of boiling water...perhaps because s/he was holding this lid on tight in order to prevent that very thing from happening...
I'm also reminded of the silent scream.
Posted by: Julia at April 22, 2003 04:12 PMReminds me of the Pulp Fiction scene. (my favorite)
- Want a sausage?
- Naw, I don't eat pork.
- Are you Jewish?
- I ain't Jewish man, I just don't dig on swine.
- Why not?
- They're filthy animals.Ý I don't eat filthy animals.
- Sausages taste good.Ý Pork chops taste good.
- A sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie.Ý I'll never
know 'cause even if it did, I wouldn't eat the filthy mo-fo.Ý I don't eat nothing that ainn't got enough sense to disregard its own feces.
- How about dogs?Ý Dogs eat their own feces.
- I don't eat dog either!
- Yes, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
- I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but they're definitely dirty.Ý But a dog's got personality.Ý And personality goes a long way.
- So by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he'd cease to be a filthy animal?
- We'd have to be talkin' 'bout one mo-fo charmin' pig.Ý I mean he would have to be 10 times more chrming than that Arnold on Green Acres!
If you typed that from memory, I'm so impressed, and rather scared.
Posted by: jason at April 22, 2003 06:45 PMI have heard that the scream that a lobster is associated with when being boiled alive is associated with "steam" escaping it's body.
However, I've seen a lobster scream on TV when it was stabbed with a sharp instrument in it's genitals for a "delicate" treat.
I don't know how people can be so crass...
Posted by: Saratha at October 4, 2003 09:33 PMI have heard that the scream that a lobster is associated with when being boiled alive is associated with "steam" escaping it's body.
However, I've seen a lobster scream on TV when it was stabbed with a sharp instrument in it's genitals for a "delicate" treat.
I don't know how people can be so crass...
Posted by: Saratha at October 4, 2003 09:34 PMA lobster doesn't have the equipment to scream but they can obviously feel pain. They wouldn't flee danger if they didn't know it would hurt them. Hey, neither would you. The reasoning that states a lobster doesn't feel pain is right up there on the idiocy scale with the reasoning, only officially debunked about 30 years ago, stating that human children don't feel pain. I've been told about kids being put in straitjackets in the dental office w/o Novocain because kids scream and struggle, but they aren't REALLY feeling pain the way a fully formed adult does. They now direct the same non-reasoning at animals. I'm sure pain isn't the same to a lobster -- they're different from us in so many ways -- but that doesn't mean the pain isn't there.
Posted by: Cliffie at November 17, 2003 02:28 PMlobsters rule!!!! so leave them alone to swim the ocean at which they born for
Posted by: cassannie at February 26, 2004 11:45 AMlobsters rule!!!! so leave them alone to swim the ocean at which they born for
Posted by: cassannie at February 26, 2004 11:46 AM